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 No.4393[Reply]

>first-world commies decry capitalism on their computers that exist because of capitalism

>while wearing clothes that exist because of capitalism

>while eating food that exists because of capitalism

>in a country that is only prosperous and first-world because of capitalism

Really makes you think.

 No.4396

They hate private ownership until they buy things


 No.4407

Labour made those things, not capitalism. Capitalism simply decided who gets the money from those things.


 No.4408

>well if you don't like it, why don't you just leave?

gtfo john locke


 No.4411

First world cappies decry feudalism in etc.

Really makes etc


 No.4415

>classical liberals decry feudalism on their printing press that exist because of monarchism




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 No.4211[Reply]

Hey you collectivists, I have a question. You do think capitalism is theft, right? But you think that taking all the land of someone and giving it to someone else is totally just, yes? Calling theft fancy names doesn't mean it ceases to be theft.

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 No.4320

….the kind of polemics you find in not-your-crazy-uncle's-bathroom-toilet reader

OP these talking points are old. You need to go back to the argument your criticizing and see why you disagree with it. form a real opinion that's more than what your dumbfuck patriarchal dad instilled into your thick skull. it doesnt matter though. political discourse with the alt right movement usually boils down to shitposting and trolls. not much else out there except vacuous ahistorical myths of the fascist persuasion.


 No.4344

>>4320

I disagree with it because all these "noble ideas" are based on legitimazing crime, are against basic human nature and against the basic principles the basics of society are built on. What your ideas try to do is wiping away thousands of years of history in the name of some vain "progression" which, in your idea, would be measurable in the living standards of the society, not attributing anything else to human life, for example, the qualityo f the lives led.

But you know what? There is a reason why leftist ideas are a decline nowdays. Because the workers you claim to support actually realize that these ideas of yours are totally fucked up to the core, and opt instead to go with other ideas, which might have some historical roots, and not just the "nble french revolution" massacre. You people are like "Yes, it may be bad for some, but I'm overally good bcuz' i'm giving it to someone else, aminot"

Furthermore. You claim you make excellent talking points. You claim things like you can't be defeated in a debate because of your higher intellectual standards and because of how many books you've read. But if I had to make a tip, you probably never even opened a right-wing economics book, so basically you just blinded yourself to any alternatives. You are not on the moral high ground of intelelctual superiority, you are just extremely biased.

And let's not forget that you claim to be the supporter of the working class, while you probably never even held a hammer in your hands, and all you do is just living on welfare of the state, on the taxes of the people who actually work and contribute to society.

I will not apologize for not being a leech on the society. You guys often forget that YOU are a minority. You should be thankful for the governments that you are even considered for hearing your opinions, because nowdays you have the support of ALMOST NOONE. Remember that


 No.4345

>>4344

Let's take your arguments paragraph by paragraph.

1. Considering you don't seem to be able to present any evidence as to show that you have actually engaged with communist or left-wing ideas (these 'noble ideas') forgive us if we don't take you as an authority. The rest of your response begs enough questions on these points. They also just speak more of your flair for rhetoric than actual debate. What crimes are we legitimizing? We simply want to emancipate labour from its theft. What is this 'basic' human nature? How did it come into being? What is this human nature and how do we contradict it? Surely it is human nature to seek freedom and emancipation? We wish to achieve this by the destruction of the fetters of capital. How do you seek to achieve such freedom by placing the worker in chains? What are these basic principles of society? Why do they conform to your thinking and not ours? How do we deny thousands of years of Human history? Surely our ideas about human progress are vindicated by those thousands of years of human progress - and will continue to be as long as human society progresses? How are any of your points trump cards for your position when they seem to be based on rhetoric and appeals to your own authority on these questions? Forgive us if we don't take you seriously enough to warrant your position as confirmed.

2. You really have to show the evidence for the basic premises of this paragraph. How do you know what the workers want? How are your estimates of their positions better than ours? What proof do you have to speak for them? At least we have the evidence enough from the fact that there are plenty enough mass socialist and communist parties in the world (with hundreds of thousands of members) to suggest that we have at least some workers with us? The fact that we helped achieved most of the basic advances those workers take for granted would seem to suggest that we know something of what the workers want - from the vote to 'living standards' to basic expansions of health, culture and education to more workers than anything your side has to provide. What are these historical roots of these ideas you claim the workers have? Are not socialism and communism ideas witPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


 No.4376

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local reactionary gets B T F O


 No.4413

Capitalism started by violently privatizing communal land, was that not theft?




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 No.4377[Reply]

>Heil Hitler

what did he mean by this?

 No.4381

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Really makes you think…


 No.4405

…. Trotsky-kun??




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 No.4401[Reply]

Which one of you whiny communist faggots called into Molyneux's show and got utterly assraped?

Why can't any of you aspy socialists actually argue your political theories without coming off sounding like a limp wristed low test beta male with a shaky voice?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZhqPC6d_DA

 No.4403

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I'm not a big fan of the kid, nor of the resolve he has about his politics.

2/10 wasn't a r33l commie




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 No.4167[Reply]

Lets get it don

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 No.4394

>litterally a "the failed communism is not real communism" comic




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 No.4382[Reply]

DIVERSITY IS OUR STRENGHT.

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 No.4389

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Progressivity in my mid is to make new and not to ridicule the old. Because from old we make new. And if we get rid of old we don't make the world richer.

>HEIL KEK!!!


 No.4390

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To not be racist is to be autistic because you can't care about everyone but you can, not care about every one.

So every one is equal in your mind.

Also the thing i find as a fact is that.

>Everything people do is for them selves and that is normal.

I am doing this because i am a college studying neet who is bored and just want to argue with someone about stuff.


 No.4391

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Well i showed some of my redpills.

Its a real shame that no one wants to prove me wrong.

Testing the pills as the yungsters say.




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 No.4363[Reply]

I made a leftypol comic, what do ya think?

 No.4367

it says who is doing something but not what they are doing? what is the force that turns good kids into angry fucks? that should be the enemy in the comic not the funny pig hat. going out and yelling at a capitalist achieves nothing. going out and counterprograming the forces that brainwash kids might achieve something.

if you want to make it about the bougies just use student loans as the boogeyman instead of the pig.


 No.4371

>>4363

It's stupid because the 'Bourgeoisie' are the ones pushing for 'tolerance' 'enviroment', etc…




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 No.4370[Reply]

Really gets that noggin joggin'



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 No.4312[Reply]

http://tripleampersand.org/alt-woke-manifesto/

>Exploit the right’s paranoia, and anti-science. If they believe that supplements will boost their testosterone, or tin foil nets disrupt phone signals; exploit that market.

 No.4368

some good stuff in there




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 No.4310[Reply]

Companions, what is their opinion about the strategy used by PCP-Shining Path? its repercussions in the conception of socialism or communism in the peruvian society. And if what was achieved was a success or a setback for the establishment of the socialist project in Peru. I even think they influenced the Nepalese communist party

 No.4311

My dad was a college student during that time, and he was sympathetic towards the Shining Path. After all was said and done, he hated the Shining Path and the government and fled to America. My mom isnt very political but she didnt like them either. I think they were a failure because they essentially acted as a terrorist organization and failed to unify the rural proletariat with the urban proletariat. Instead of attacking the capitalists, they mostly attacked the middle to upper middle class liberals


 No.4335

Shining Path were a disaster for both the local working-class movement in Peru and the prospects for socialism in Peru itself. That may not have been the PCP(SP)'s intention when they started in 1982 but the result has been the entrenchment of both the Right in Peru and the weakening of the labour and peasant movement in Peru as a whole. By that single criteria they were a complete failure - and the Peruvian workers are now in a worse political position because of it.

At the same time I think we also have to recognise the already rubbish political conditions that Peru was in (for any left-wing movement) prior to 1982, which is why the Shining Path episode occurred and why it has been a disaster. Peru was probably one of the most politically, socially and economically backward parts of Latin America in the 20th century - that reality always meant that Peru was always going to be one of the most difficult places to organise effective left-wing movements in Latin America, even without the complete failure that was the Shining Path. Indeed more difficult than Colombia - and that country's Left has had difficulty ever since 1948-1952.

I recommend you read Jose Mariátegui's writings on Peruvian society. He explains why, in the 20th century, Peru was probably the worst place to organise left-wing groups in South America, and why the chances of success there (for the left) was always minimal.


 No.4364

Unpopular opinion: Their protracted people's war would have actually worked had they refrained from slaughtering their fellow leftists in the labour unions and the peasentry who set up autonomous markets in order to sustain themselves in the absence of government sovereignty. Trying to implement a centralised economy and forbidding any alternative before they had siezed power was a stupid as fuck act of ideological Puritanism without any common-sense pragmatism. The central tenement of a Protracted People's War is to maintain your support with the peasentry and working class, and they fucking blew it.




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 No.4338[Reply]

I'n this thread, retards and homosexuals try and make good arguments for antifa.

Pro Tip: You Can't.

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 No.4341

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>>4339

the men who stormed Normandy would not let niggers run wild in the streets and hated filthy reds just as much as they hated nazis,


 No.4342

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So much hate for their Comrade Reds on the Elbe that day in 1945…April 25th 1945

Protip: take Berlin yourself if you don't want our Commie help next time.


 No.4343

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>>4341 But I thought Americans loved antifa?


 No.4346

>>4341

In 1939 a gallup opinion poll said 75 per cent of Americans said they had a favourable opinion of the USSR.

In 1944 a gallup public opinion poll said 90 per cent of Americans said they had a favourable opinion of the USSR.

So much for the men storming Normandy hating their 'filthy Red' comrades in arms.

Learn to read a history book you fash piece of trash


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 No.3857[Reply]

hi cucks, get fucked

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 No.3871

are you fucking retarded


 No.4316

Trump is more liberal than Hillary


 No.4318

As a pinko commie faggot I'm glad Trump won.


 No.4356

>>3857

It's so funny how liberals are triggered so hard by this LOL


 No.4360

>shows two capitalist maps of elections

>says get fucked on /leftypol/

Are you completely fucking retarded or something?




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 No.3877[Reply]

I'm a clerical fascist/French fascist please educate me on communism and turn me to the left.

 No.4352

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>>3877

become Nazbol


 No.4358

>>4352

cool, then what?


 No.4359

Become a cuck… do it




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 No.4156[Reply]

Oh boy, I am sure glad we have nice capitalist to fight the good fight.

 No.4221

Yes Millenials! You'll have to lose your jobs because we have to fight fascists by hiring refugees! Hopefully they won't commit any crimes!


 No.4357

This is AWFUL! That capitalist exploiting the labor of those innocent refugees for profit.

If he really wanted to help, they would make them executives.




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 No.4215[Reply]

As a Marxist-Leninist i just want to say that all these well-off college kids, that claim to be communists, are retards.

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 No.4297

>>4284

Cooperatives are still capitalism.


 No.4313

>>4297

Workers own the means of production and is run by the workers, for the workers.

It is simply not.


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 No.4353

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>mfw communists denounce liberals


 No.4354

>>4215

Lenin and Marx were well-off college kids

Marxism-Leninism BTFO???




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